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>> the president there sounding upbeat. acknowledging it's been a tough time. there are challenges obviously ahead. how is he doing do you think? a lot of this comes from the leader in terms of the spirit of a country. in terms of its ability to

resurge, if you like. is obama the right man? do you like what you see for maybe the second term obama already? >> i love the man. i voted for him originally. i actually went to a meeting with 18 of the top tech executives, the guys who started google. and in the meeting, everybody was a big supporter. i said, mr. president, i love your heart. i absolutely believe in your intelligence. i know you care. i voted for you the first time but i said i would love to know how it's going to be different -- this is prior to the election -- when there's such demonization going on. i think that's the significant problem in our country. it's not one person. we used to be able to have a dialogue. today it's you're right, you're wrong. that process happens in the gun debate, it's happening everywhere in this country. i had a conversation with him and said, listen, if you think the solution that you're telling me you're going to do in your next term is you're going to raise taxes on the wealthy, i'm more than willing to pay that. i'm supportive of that. but that will raise $80 billion. even less now because they cut it from 250 as the cutoff. that will run the country for eight days. $10.4 billion a day.

that's not even going to scratch the $1.1 trillion. what else are we going to do? he said i think what will happen is the republicans will have a kick-around and we'll start working together. i said as long as there's demonization, there's no chance of coming up with an intelligent compromise. that's the single issue that's got to shift. one man grabbed my hand, i think that's enough of this conversation. he said no, he said tony has given us creative tension and he pulled me aside and said, come to the white house and we'll talk about this. we have to have a unifying message. we're missing that right now. >> as you say, something's changed in america. there was this great, all encompassing superpower. now there are many rivals for that position. that will increase over the next few decades. america has to respond. it can't respond perhaps in the way it would have done 50 years ago. >> the president has his hands full, to be fair. he talked about the worst day of his presidency with sandy hook. he's dealt with things most people don't have to deal with. but you're right, there needs to

be unifying vision. someone is saying, kennedy, we're going to go to space, or have this war on poverty. right now our goals are to pay our bills. it's hard to get people to find a way to power themselves when what they're aspiring to is depressing. that's not just the president's fault, it's true, the leadership of our country has to say, here's where we're going to go. we can pay our bills and we're going to be okay. to be fair to the president, i think when you see tears in his eyes, it's about the issue of there being a future for young people for the next generation. i think he really sincerely cares. >> tell me this. what is this future going to be in terms of america incorporated as a business model? because a lot of the things that america used to be great for, manufacturing, for example, they've changed so dramatically and become so global, you can't really go back and do that again. even if you have the money to do it. america needs to find other business models, doesn't it? >> it is.

it's in the middle of it. we're in the middle of that process. in manufacturing, there's been growth primarily because we found the new technologies to bring us energy. we have more natural gas than saudi arabia has oil. so there's some changes. people are coming back here because it's cheaper to do business in america. i think what's more important is the average american. the average american, if we're sitting and waiting for the government to come up with the answer for us, the president to come up with a vision, you'll have a problem. if you've been on unemployment for 12 million americans, those jobs probably aren't coming back. it's time to retool and say where is the next opportunity, is it in health care, is it in green. where am i going to get the skills. the government is going to step up and say here's a pathway. you've got to find it yourself. >> how morally responsible should big, successful companies, we've seen starbucks do this, apple dip its toe in the water. >> you talked about that the last time i was on. >> apple has since then done so. it was a start. but it's about the principle, really, of great american

companies in the tech world. they lead the world. but a lot of the stuff's outsourced outside of america. that doesn't really help the american jobs market, even though by being successful companies they do in that way. >> yes. i think you've got to look at it in the context, talking about looking back through history. if you and i were having this discussion 100 years ago, 40% of americans were farmers. today it's 2%, and we don't just feed america, we feed the world. it's a chance for us to take those resources and redeploy them. what's missing is the leadership saying here's where you've got to go. i donated 1 million meals last year personally. my foundation, 4 million meals. if you take people for two years and take care of them and don't give them new skills, they lose confidence. they lose certainty. and i find that they're going to become institutionalized and not be a part of the new future. i think our job is to say here are the tools to get you to the next level of your life, so you can create the new american revolution. >> when you talk about this transformation, the

post-traumatic stress in all its guises to post-traumatic growth, what do you mean by that? >> most people know about post-traumatic stress, and it severely affects them for the rest of their life, they can't sleep, nightmares. but there are people who have gone through the exact same trauma and they found in themselves the drive where they're no longer broken and they heal. there's three things people find who have done the studies on. if you make it to the growth side, where you're expanding and able to deal with it, the number one thing is you find out you're more powerful than anything you ever thought. you're bigger than any event. if you're still alive. second, you find out who your real friends are. not your facebook friends, your friends who show up, and those relationships, they deepen. the third thing is, it's almost like you have antibodies. you have this set of muscles that allow you to deal with things in the future. what people do in that area is they --

>> thank you. >> i remember this happening. another outrage involving guns in america. let me start with you, nick, if i may. you were shot four times. you were paralyzed after what happened. you're in a wheelchair now. the moment that you were shot, what goes through your mind?

then when i got to the hospital it was a lot different. it was like wow, this is my son. i just remember him looking at me and he said, hom, i can't feel my legs. and that was one of the hardest things it hear in your whole life. >> what is the prognosis? >> they said that they were cautiously optimistic when they came out of surgery. but so we're still hoping and praying. you never know. >> tony, it is interesting, i think, that for all the love and support you can get from family, obviously led by holly, but many friends, family, texting, the rest is all helpful in making you feel a little bit better. but actually, it was the words from the young man who had been through a very similar thing. is that something you should look for, if you get -- is that kind of did- >> yes. >> very particular support group

that knows exactly what you've been through? >> well, it is somebody who has been through it but we call it a compelling future. all human beings when we go through trauma, what gets us through today is a promising tomorrow. tomorrow may not be that i can go run but tomorrow is is i can have a beautiful rea lagsship, make a difference in the world, make an impact. something that makes you say there is something that i value more than my today pain and it is a tomorrow i will create for myself. he has that, he has it in his eyes. we talked to it beforehand. i would be interested -- because something that gets people through it, and i mean get through it, a quality life skill. some people have painful life. and they have frustration. and people who have been through hell on earth and have great lives. it is managing your own thoughts and self-discipline and self-control but also usually having a mission bigger than yourself and sense you've been helped, i always talk about each

one teach one >> he came to me a few days after the tragedy at sandy hook and said that me and some of my friends want to go there. we want to talk to them and tell them how it feels, you know, that you're going to be angry, you're going to be sad. every day is going to be so different. >> yes. >> and it will come back. then it will go away. >> there are two traumatic situations. one is being paralyzed. the other one is actually having been shot in a massacre situation, which is really the stuff of nightmares. i suppose my question for you is, how hard is it for you? you seem such a calm, confident young man, despite what's happened to you.

how hard is it when other shootings happen, and you hear or read about it? does that bring it all back? >> yeah. it brings me a little confusion, too. like i just don't understand why all this happens. this isn't what america was made for. you know, it's just sad. it's really sad. >> what can really make the difference is things happen in life, and when they're meaningless, the pain never goes away. i have the use of my life, but people who have dealt with your situation is when they can find, because this happened, i can make something else better for another human being. that's when there's a positive meaning. you don't wish it on anybody. but only people who have gone through spiritual pain have the spiritual strength to heal other people. i don't mean it in a religious experience. you have that power, because you made that shift in yourself. this can be the beginning of that journey. >> what ambitions do you have?

has it changed your outlook? do you have particular goals now? obviously one would be to get out of the wheelchair. but aside from that. have you set things for yourself that you want to achieve? >> well, obviously i had to switch around my career a little bit that i was aiming for. but i really just want a good career. >> what would you want to be? >> i wanted to be just an electrician, in the union. i don't believe that can happen practically right now. so i'm actually taking an auburn class, which is an alternative study class for any electrical components. i'm going to switch to small electronics instead. >> good for you. >> i'll see what i can do with that. >> same kind of thing, just a different way of doing it. >> right. >> which is adapting to what's happened to you. nick, holly, thank you so much for coming in. it's an awful story, but inspiring story.

awful story. i think your attitude is absolutely the right one. i think it's right, go to sandy hook and help there. they'll be desperately trying to figure out what their lives are going to be like. it's a great example of how you give back and get on with things. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> when we come back, tony and i will talk to a former marine about the post-traumatic battles he's faced in afghanistan and other war zones, and now conquering at home. [ man ] i've been out there most of my life. you name it...i've hooked it. but there's one... one that's always eluded me. thought i had it in the blizzard of '93. ha! never even came close.

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i've been to combat five times. see what i've seen. the death, the funerals, been around a bunch of explosions. i have light sensitivity, and ptsd. i've been through so much trauma. >> here on the front lines, speaking out about his troubled journey back from war, casey wilson. served in afghanistan, kosovo and iraq. tony robbins helped him overcompost traumatic stress disorder. he has ptsd something many war heroes suffer from. it's powerful and moving address

you gave there. you can see the physical effects. you were shaking and you've clearly been through all sorts of trauma, in different ways. before you met tony, what was your life like? >> i was doing a lot of current therapy, you know, psychiatry, psychology, which i started in 2011. 2010, i started doing -- trying to figure out my life, because i went through a second divorce. and so i didn't understand the whole process, why was i feeling this way? so i started to seek treatment at that time. i was going to acupuncture, healing touch, meditation. >> did it help, any of that? >> yes. it was helping to an extent, you know. like i said, i was just 20-plus years in the marine corps. i had severe trauma at a child

which i never realized was a problem until, you know, i just added more stuff after more stuff in my life. >> why don't you tell them what your symptoms were at the time. >> basically insomnia. i would probably sleep four or five hours a night, but i would wake up 45 minutes to every hour. i would have severe tremors. i was -- before i knew of my light sensitivity, i always had headaches and migraines. i would have to go into dark rooms, take a nap. and, you know, i would just be breaking down myself in a sense. >> what was the rock bottom moment for you? >> the rock bottom moment for me, in a sense, was -- it was after my second divorce. just being -- i pushed so many people away. i couldn't figure out why i felt this way. i deployed eight times.

you know, i went to combat four times, but i count my life as my fifth combat. you know, deployment. i've been fighting myself prior to -- in my younger age, until my age i am, 39 years old, when i went to date with destiny december 1 where, you know, i needed to get a little bit of mo vags because here i am about to retire from the marine corps. >> tony, there are tens of thousands of american service men and women who go through similar trauma. it's been a terrible period for the american military. constantly in combat in various countries. what do you say in that situation? >> it isn't just saying. we've done this with hundreds of wounded warriors and different soldiers. inside every human being, we have trauma. his was extreme trauma. there's a personality in him that was beyond wounded. but inside of everyone, there's a part of you that's whole and strong. that's truly untouched by the experience. so what i had to do is find out -- he was trying to express

his feign and i felt that. then i got him to connect to a part of himself that is whole. this part you can see on camera, we gave it a name. the name was tigger. when he changed to that kind of personality, his glasses came off, he was able to see without the headaches. he stopped tremoring. he had been shaking like this for hours. all that stopped literally in minutes. an hour later he was on stage with a group of, about 2,500 people from 80 countries rocking them, sharing his mission for his life. he found something greater than his pain. he found something he wanted to serve, like he served for his country. now it's to serve other people. >> is that a regular people for people coming out of combat zones, i have military people in my family, and when they're home, they get listless and restless, and start to feel strange, just not being where they're used to being, in that dangerous environment. >> we don't know how to open up, or express our -- tell our story either.

that's also part of the problem. and the other part, too, as well, is being accepted in society. you know, because there's a brotherhood in the services around the world. and we have a problem when we come out of the service, you know, to the civilian world where people will judge us and use -- if they find out about our trauma, in one way or another, will use that against us. there is no brotherhood that i would say in a civilian community. >> when you see people who have gone through, what my previous guest went through, a school shooting, a young man and all the trauma that's happened to him. what do you think of that? what advice would you give him? >> basically he has to take back his life. finding forgiveness, you know, it's more finding forgiveness for himself so he can find peace in his life. he has so much potential that

he's able to basically be able to impact and change so many people's lives. >> tony, is that a regular thing, too, if you feel too angry and bitter about what's happened to you, that's a huge barrier to being able to get through it? >> it's not just a barrier to get through it, science shows five minutes of rage, you certainly have the right to have, and what he's been through in his life, will shut down literally your immune system for four hours. what successful people do is they stack victories. that's also what we did with him. we said there's a different set of rules. you can't come as a marine, you've got to come as a guy who was whole. what was it like before. when he tapped into the playful guy who has this jump in his step and is laughing, that's when the glasses came off and he said i want people to see my baby blues. people were cheering. he got to feel this connection with people at a human level. it's also having something you value more than your pain. he values mission. he values being able to make a difference. he has a new mission back here at home. >> good for you. thank you for your service. >> thank you.

>> which is still actually ongoing you told me. we wish you all the best for it. more importantly, it was your life in the combat you made, extraordinary to see. >> thank you. >> good to see. >> coming next, a man who lost everything and is now worth $50 million. we'll find out how he did it, coming up next. [ wind howls ] [ dog barks ] ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] something powerful is coming. ♪ see it in the fourth quarter.

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right now, millions of americans are still out of work. my next guest knows exactly how they feel. mike is a business owner who lost everything in 2008. i mean everything. now he's overcome that financial ruin and runs two businesses with revenues worth $50 million. congratulations. >> thank you. >> it's been a roller coaster ride. you've known tony for 17 years. and you've been up and down in that period of time. >> correct. >> tell me quickly the journey you've been on. >> i started off coming from a very challenging background, single mother, raised by a single mother. had no education. and really, no hope. and what i always say, i was lucky that i was put in front of

an icon of empowerment. >> he is. every time i interview him, i feel empowered. >> that's true. what he is is an incredible educator. by the grace of the universe i was able to fall in the lap of this educator. he helped get me out of that place where i was, where there was no hope. >> he was homeless at the time. what i love about mike's story, is mike just didn't help himself. he built a small business to start with. one of the young women who worked for him was addicted to meth. how did you end up in your new business? >> the young woman had come to work for me a number of years ago. you could tell something was wrong. she was addicted to methamphetamine. she was a daily user of ecstacy. i got her involved in mr. robbins' program. within 30 day, she was completely off of drugs. it turned out her father, her dad was incredibly successful in the metal recycling business. i got a call from him shortly thereafter who said anybody who has influence over human beings like this needs to help. he taught me the business.

seven months later he allowed me to buy him out. years later, i continued to grow and grow and grow. >> amazing. >> until 2008. >> you built up this $13 million business. and then you literally almost lost it overnight in the big crash of '08. >> it was interesting. four months before the crash, tony calls me and says, mike, you need to prepare. and as everyone in the country kept saying, we're strong. the economists are saying, we're strong. i didn't listen to him. i should have listened to him. >> why wouldn't you listen to tony robbins? >> things were going great. >> that was mainly thanks to him. >> i know. that's true. overnight, as you know, the economy collapses. the metal business completely collapses. >> when that happened to you, and having gone from literally nothing, you were a homeless guy to $13 million business, and then it all disappears, what was that like for you? >> i didn't care about losing

the material possessions. i had a 3-year-old son at the time. he's now 7. the only thing that was going through my mind was, how do i face my son. from the day he came home from the hospital, i was determined he was not going to grow up in the same environment that i did. and all i wanted to do is have my little boy sit on my lap when he was old enough and say, you know what, there's nothing you can't do. you can become anything. i don't want my boy to look up at me and say, daddy, if that's true, how come you haven't done it? that was what was crushing my heart. i just could not fail. and come up with an excuse for this little boy. >> tony, can anybody be like this? or do you have to have a little bit of ferocity of spirit? >> i think ferocity of spirit is critical for everybody. but we all have it. it's like a muscle. >> do we all have it? >> sure we do. but courage unused becomes weaker. determination unused gets smaumer. passion unexpressed gets smaller. like any muscle, the more you use it. he's been using it for years. his son, here's the other thing, he had a reason larger than himself. you see the pattern of all the

people who have overcome. at the time he said he was worried about his employees and he really cares about his people. but you have to make that shift where it's no longer an excuse. if you give yourself an excuse, humans will take it. if you're going to take the island you burn the boat. and he burned the boat and said i'm going to find the answer. he shifted to psychology and got the skills. like i said earlier, it's not just confidence. you have to have skill. he had both. show them what you did. >> after that particular business mastering program, as tony said, 80% of it is psychology, and 20% of it is mechanics, or the strategies. unless you get the psychology down, the mechanics don't matter. i can tell you, from that day in november of 2008, where i made that decision, that i was not going to fail, and i kissed my lady and said, i'm going back to work, and we went out there and i learned how to export. and when there was no market for steel in the united states, i was able to export to several different countries.

and we took off from there. we continued to grow. and it was just, again, about a mind-set. it's about having a level of pride. for me, it was coming from where i come from, the name didn't mean a whole heck of a lot. i was determined to change that. it's something i call generational influence. i'm not doing this for me. i'm doing this for my son. >> is that good advice, tony? there are millions and millions of americans out of work. many suffering very hurt pride. never mind anything else and real financial hardship. is that a good focus to look at children, to look at other things and say, you know what, stop feeling sorry for myself, it's for him, for her, for that. >> most of the -- i think what's beautiful about most human beings is we'll do more for people we love than ourselves. and mote i have does matter. if you just try to do something for yourself, you only get a certain level of insight. if you do it for others, it comes to a level of insight. mike got the belief out of business mastery that money is still changing hands. i need to see how to get that.

how to add value to people's lives. where do i get it and where is that value available? >> what do you say to the people suffering in america right now? >> tony is absolutely right. we need to take the focus off of ourselves and stop feeling sorry about ourselves. it's about serving humanity, about serving people. it's all about service. and we have just got to get out there. tony talked about earlier about retooling. it's about learning new skills. when i talked about finding an icon of empowerment, whether it's anthony robbins, whether it's someone like oprah winfrey, a school or university, you need to get in there and learn the new skills. then you've got to get out there and you've got to perform by serving. serving humanity. it isn't about me, it isn't about me making money or dollar amount, it's about protecting the people that i love, the people that i care about. if you follow that formula, you cannot fail. >> what i said earlier about bitterness and anger and resentment, self-pity is also a complete waste of time and energy. it's perfectly understandable. all of those emotions are just

barriers to getting back on your feet, aren't they? >> that's correct. all emotions serve. anger, frustration, it's all valuable, but not if you live there. all those emotions that create pain, they're designed to get you to change, to do something. if you just sit and live in the emotion, and you don't do anything, the pain just gets deeper and it becomes your groove and your grave. if you shift those emotional states, cl is what we teach people to do, physically, not fake positive thinking, but with a real strategy, a real action plan, that's all business is, add more value than anybody else does and you'll have a chance to win. that's what he's done. >> great story. mike, good to meet you. >> my pleasure. >> tony gives you five ways to immediately change your life.

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>> the quality of your life is the quality of where you live emotionally. we all have a home. angry people find a way to get angry. sad people find a way to be sad. caring people find a way to care about other people. where are you living, what's your home, what's your habit. the way to change it, when i was homeless, i didn't have the internet, i decided i had to go to a library and feed my mind. the first stage is, weeds grow automatically. every day stand guard of your mind and feed it. if you feed your mind every day, reading something, hearing something, second, you have to strengthen your body. fear is physical, right? so is stag nation, numbness, sadness, rage. when you go in to change your body by an intense workout or run, or walk and the blood's flowing through, it

automatically changes your biochemistry. the third thing, people found a mission bigger than themselves. you have to find a role model that makes it real. i was with warren buffett and sarah blakley, the youngest billionaire. we do this roundtable about the future. when women meet her, they don't just love spanx her product, they love her because she's a role model of what's possible. you get a role model, you get a plan. the last step, there's always somebody worse off than you are, i don't care what you've done. if you can help somebody worse off, it will put your life in perspective, and life's not about me, it's about we. the secret to a great life, is giving. and there's -- you realize there's something still to give, even if you lost your legs, you've been through a horrific financial situation, your life can improve, more importantly,

you have a meaningful life. >> you're successful, rich, famous, super fit good looking guy. >> if you can have any one thing, you can have good health, you can have money, you can have fame, allows you to inspire people, what would you choose? >> i certainly think it's a life of meaning, i don't think it, i know it is. feeling life matters. you and i have both had lots of friends who have achieved everything. they're missing a meaningful life. meaning comes from two things. happiness comes from progress, if you can do something where you're growing and because you've grown, you have something to drive to other people that's meaningful, insight, love, caring, something, life is rich. happiness comes and goes. happiness isn't all it's cracked

up to be. meaning is, there are people who have gone through horrible times, a woman who is 109 years old, she was in the concentration camps. that woman's life is so rich because of all the pain. still at 109 she's strong. she shares her music, she does the things that make her feel like she has a contribution. >> as always, incredibly inspiring.

and mark mckay is there, and he is watching up aof this go down, live in realtime. and mark as you're watching this, you know, it's on the loud

speaker, instead of hearing they're on the 49 and it's a drive or a flag on the play and people are starting to do the wave, entertaining themselves. people get a little bit happy, and they get a little restless. and then i'm sure you guys wondered is this going to turn ugly? >> we wondered how long it would go on, it lasted for 34 minutes. there were announcements made to us over 75,000 in the dome to remain in our seats. that delay stretched 34 minutes before football came back. the 49ers trailed by 22 points. they were down by 20 points. it seemed as if the ravens were running away with this game just after half time, jacoby jones ran back the opening kickoff to the second half, 109 yardses for a score, and then the power went out. it didn't completely go out, the dome wasn't completely tossed

into darkness, but it was enough to halt the game. players on both sides were on the sidelines trying their best to stay limbered up, trying their best to wait out this delay. in the stands, folks were starting to get a bit restless. air conditioning had gone off. it was starting to get quite warm in the upper regions where we were. and then everything came back, including the 49ers, coming all the way back and falling just short of the end as the ravens are crowned super bowl champions for the second time in franchise histo history. yes, maybe things would have been different if san francisco had come back to win this game. >> it made a whole lot of people nervous, including myself, as we were watching this, we could see the harbaugh brothers, the coaches, there was -- i think it was john who really became upset. he had a talking to.

he knew he had some he was not happy about it. >> no, he wasn't. and for good reason, as soon as the lights came on, the game came back, colin kaepernick and the 49ers got themselves back into this game. they made it a game. no one could give john harbaugh the answer as to what he needed. at this hour, we don't know, the investigation is still underway as to why we had a partial power failure at the louisiana superdome, not only included lights inside but outside as well. it was concentrated on the dome property, it wasn't necessarily in the neighborhood here, but it is something that's continued to be investigated at this hour, there's no answers as to why it went down. >> well, that's what they say. i would imagine that's initial reports. they could be right, but i think still, there's some time between now and tomorrow and before this entire investigation plays out.

mark mckay, stand by, i'm sure we're going to need you, we're not sure what time we're going to go off the air tonight. you're going to have to delay your plans to go down to bourbon street we're going to need you to do some reporting tonight. a statement i just got in from the power company, at all times, entergy's distribution was serving the superdome. entergy is the company that supplies energy to new orleans power public service incorporated. we continue working with superdome personnel to address any outstanding issues. here's what cbs is saying tonight. immediately after the power failure, we lost numerous cameras and some audio powered by sources in the superdome, we utilized cbs's backup power and at no time did we leave the air. they were doing a lot of dancing on the air the sportscasters,

because they were just dancing, they didn't know what to do. terence moore, down in new orleans. standing outside the superdome. they have given out all the trophies. we were looking at all the partying on bourbon street. they're headed that way there they are. that's baltimore. they're partying in baltimore, partying in new orleans. and terence they're streaming out of the superdome, i'm sure. this was indeed, this is not a cliche when it comes to this one, a nail biter. >> no question about it. i have to say this, there will be a controversy that could be rather huge here. because there was one report on the internet from espn that the fire marshalls said that there was a fire at some point in the superdome around an elevator, okay?

so if that is true, then that could be a problem, because they kept announcing -- the p.a. announcers kept announcing for everyone to stay in their seats, be calm. we all know what happened in brazil with that nightclub. if that is true, there's going to be have to be a lot of explanation there as to why people were told to stay still, don't move -- >> terence. >> there was not an evacuation taking place. >> say again, what was the issue? >> the issue was, espn was reporting and i guess a couple other wire services were reporting there's a helicopter going above me right now. >> we can hear you. >> that the fire marshall said there was a fire reported in the superdome near an elevator. as a matter of fact, the report also said one of the elevators was not working supposedly because of this fire. the problem with that is, in the superdome, they kept announcing over and over again, to tell

everybody to stay in their seats and don't move. my contention is, we all know what happened a few days ago with the nightclub fire in brazil, where you had bodyguards or people -- the bouncers blocking the doors so people can't get out. this was not the right move, the move, if this is true was to have people calmly evacuate the superdome. again, that was one report that the fire marshalls had said that. you just mentioned the mayor said -- there's going to be a complete review of the situation. let's wait and see what happens when it comes to that. >> yeah. okay. listen. again, that's not cnn's reporting, but we'll check on that and see if that is indeed true. if you are right, that is the wrong thing to do. let us get now to jim harbaugh. you know when -- he just got up. jim harbaugh just addressed the crowd there in new orleans. the loser always goes first. i guess he was probably congratulating his brother.

we missed it because we were getting breaking news from you on a report about a possible fire in an elevator. we don't know if that's true. that's cnn's reporting. i'm looking off here because i'm looking at the feed coming in. this is a celebration out in baltimore. we'll check on what you said about a possible fire in an elevator, if that's true, depending on where that fire was and how severe it was it would cause evacuating. but not in all cases when there's a fire. when there's a fire with wiring, with fuses that can cause the power to go out. a tale of two cities here, the city on the left, the winning city is baltimore maryland. the city on the right is, we hope still the winning city, depending on the situation when all the reports come in it will be -- that's the city of new orleans. joe flacco, the ravens

quarterback is the most valuable player, he's speaking now, addressing the media. let's listen in. >> you've seen those guys do it. they have the ability to score and score quickly. that's kind of what they did there. we got them to 28-6, they were able to go the length of the field and put a good drive together. and we kind of -- you know, we didn't get anywhere on our third down, first, second and third down. we got a punt return and boom. games happen -- games can go like that, that's why you have to take care of the football and get first downs, but -- we have a team that no matter what the situation, we're going to overcome it to the best of our ability and it's kind of fitting that we won it like that today. >> is it special for you? >> yeah, it's unbelievable. especially the way it happened.

the niners drive all the way down the field and they stop them on four straight downs on the five yard line. it's pretty cool. everyone knows he's an unbelievable football player, but he's the best teammate and it's unbelievable to send him out like this. and the reason for that is, he just wanted us to know what it feels like to win this thing. he's felt it, and he wanted to feel it again. but he really wanted us to feel that. and we all made it happen today. >> how did the confetti feel and all the thoughts of going through it, and actually going through it. >> they shoot a lot of it out there, it's pretty cool. we're walking off the field, it was like it just snowed confetti and it was all for us. it felt good. >> both teams had to deal with it, we came off -- i think they were facing a 3rd and 14 and we

didn't do anything with the ball. >> 15 touchdowns, december 6th. >> i don't know, man. it happens like that. i don't think i'm a person that throws a lot of picks in general. we've played 20 games this year, i think i've thrown ten of them. it just happens that way. the team came together and got healthy and we hit our stride at the right point and that's why we're standing where we are today. >> awesome, man. he came up huge. he did a great job getting open on some of the routes he had. and relied on them big time at the end on one of those third downs. they rotated over the top of them, so you really wouldn't throw that ball too much. but he had a little bit of separation there. and he did a great job catching that football. that's a beast right there. >> everybody does. they have to give it to one guy, i'm not going to complain that i

got it. >> how important is it to have that kind of word from the owner. >> it's cool. we just won the super bowl. he did let me know that if the day came, i could go beat on his desk and really put it to him. that's exactly what i'm going to do. >> you talk about -- >> yeah, that's what the game called for. there were sometimes when they broke through, sometimes when they did a good job covering people. you could see that on film. you knew they were going to have tight coverage on the receivers. some things just work out that way. those kept the drives going. allowed us to put those points on the board. the first half -- this game always comes down to two minute drives. that's exactly what it came down to today.

we were able to get it done in the first half. we were able to get it done. i don't ever want to feel like i'm in a position to deened if myself. it's not right. i don't have to do that. but we'll have this thing forever. and everybody on that team will be connected to each other forever, and that's something pretty special. >> our team's great, you saw us. we're hanging out, getting ready for the game to get going. i think the receivers would have been able to see the ball and all of that, the biggest issue was with the headsets. i think ours were working, theirs weren't. there was something discussed there with -- what we might have to do if they never come back on, but it was just one of those

things that happens. you have to deal with it. i think they were able to get some momentum, because they got their offense going a little bit. >> a few more questions. >> this type of victory was automatic. the way that your team plays. and that -- >> i think it's fitting that we won that way. it's the kind of -- like i said, we're a tough blue collar city. and that's the way our games tend to come down. we were up 28-6. i'm sure a lot of people were nervous, but we're kind of like, this might be pretty easy. and the next thing you know, the niners get back into it, and play great football. we had to grind one out. >> i was sitting on the bench, i'm kind of thinking, man, these guys got it going right now. to be honest, i'm thinking, they're going to put the ball on the end zone. we're going to kick the ball to tie it or win. i assume we would go for two again to make it a three-point game.

that's what i was getting in my mind-set ready to do. put us in position to score a touchdown or kick a field goal. >> last question? >> in terms of playing from behind sometimes in tight games, having the ball, you would think you're looking -- you're probably thinking, i'm going to get this ball last if we have to? >> yeah. >> how has it been in these tight situations the last couple years? >> it always helps. it's really what makes a team and forms a team, a schauble champion team, we've been put through those situations, when they come up, we don't know if we're going to be successful, the bottom line is, the moment doesn't get too big. we're comfortable. we've been there before and we've failed before. we've succeeded before. and we're not worried about the outcome. we go out there and play football, execute. we believe that if we do that, and we do that to our ability. eventually it's going to work out. >> okay, guys, that's it, we have to go. >> we're going this way.

>> yes, joe flacco we were nervous too because we thought you guys had it in the bag. you're exactly right. he's the mvp and the quarterback for the ravens and we were right along with you. we were nervous and worried and scared, at least us ravens fans. we're talking in the studio about karma. karma after one of the 49ers players made a disparaging remark. and we all started rooting for the ravens, i think everyone knows what i'm talking about, karma is a you know what. as we look at the tale of two cities tonight. on the left baltimore maryland. look at the streets of baltimore, man. people are excited there. and on the right, the city of new orleans, the city that never sleeps. that is the winning city right there in the middle of your screen. we're going to get back to this developing story. we can call it a developing story, we don't know what's going to happen. all the investigation has not been done when it am coulds to

this story. someone's talking in my ear, that's why i stopped. this is the wing coach, john harbaugh. >> our team president, every one of our players who you'll be talking to, i hope, shortly. thank you, baltimore fans for sticking with us, for believing in us. we all does it together. i'm talking about the fans and the players and the coaches and the organization, all the little kids wearing purple on friday. all the kids at johns hopkins hospital that sent us that video for. for the 49ers, it's just a great football game. the way that game played out when it was 28-6 and the lights went out. and whatever happened, i just knew with jim harbaugh being on the sideline and all those years we've been together. that game was going to be a dogfight right to the end. those guys were coming back. there's no greater competitor,

there's no greater coach in the nfl or in the world as far as i'm concerned than jim harbaugh. the way that team played, proves it. what they've done is unprecedented. and they showed it today, the way they battled back and fought to the end, that's who he is, and that's who they are. and i could not be more proud of him and what he's done there. my family, mom and dad. we love you, thank you, thank you. ingrid and alison, thank you. tom, joannie, your family, thanks for being here. it's a glorious day and gods is gracious and god is good. and god is in control. >> the final series of ray lewis' career was a goal line stand to win the lombardi trophy. he said on the podium, how could it be any other way than that. we said to our team many times,

it played out the same way, it wasn't perfect, it wasn't pretty, but it was us. and that's who we are. joe was phenomenal. we're sitting there at 3rd and 6 inches, and joe has three play options, he decides to throw the fade to anquan. he throws it right on the money and anquan goes up and makes the play. that just shows me he has guts. he was doing it all night, making plays. >> it feels good, dave. i'd like to be more profound than that, it feels like ray said it would feel. it feels like all the guys that worked so hard and stuck together through trials and tribulations and difficulties and maintained faith, it feels like they got what they deserved. >> the meeting with jim in the middle was probably the most

difficult thing i've ever been associated with in my life. i'm proud of them. thoughts on colin kaepernick and their offense. it's not just colin, he makes it go, but they're offense is incredible. there's so many problems they posed. trying to find a defensive call. i thought they did a tremendous job. our players did a tremendous job of playing with discipline. you make one mistake, you don't cover it exactly right. you don't close exactly right, and they make a big play. that's why they're so dangerous. this team is going to be around for many years to come. what's that? we're a resilient team, that's why we won the game. >> i think all that stuff is overrated.

ray, obviously, we love ray. and there's no way our guys would ever want to have not ray go out like this, but it's not just ray. it's a team effort. it's a team accomplishment. like ray's saying right now, we did it. it's a team accomplishment. hey, where's everybody going? go ahead, that's okay. i told them, there's an old motown song, ain't no mountain high enough, ain't no valley low enough, ain't no river wide enough to keep us from wing this championship. that's exactly what i said. it's a great song too. as i said before, not even close, i know who the other coach is, and i know the ways those guys reflect his personality, he wasn't going to allow for it to end that way. they handled that better than we did. the momentum turned and they handled it well.

>> your offense has done it. and now your defense led five times -- >> i don't know if i have words for it. i think it speaks to our resolve. it speaks to our determination, our mental toughness, our faith, our trust in one another. our belief in one another. that's what wins and loses games, they always turn on situations like that, our guys have been there in the end. we had five or six in a row like that, it's been incredible. i thought we still have 13 minutes left in the third quarter, we have a lot of football left to play, and i knew who we were playing, the team and the coach that was across the sideline, that was going to be a tough game to the end. we called them up in the huddle right before we went out there. i made two big a deal about that. it had to do with the phones and whether we were going to have communication or take communication away.

there's certain rules involved with that, i was trying to make a case. they told me -- it ended up being a moot point, i guess. it was much ado about nothing. jacoby's been a blessing to this team. we're grateful to have him on this team. he's right from here in new orleans. ed reid right from here in new orleans, made the interception. for those guys to be able to do that in their hometown. those were just two phenomenal plays. the kick was well blocked. to make the catch, go down, get up and outrun someone to the corner, i mean, it should go down in super bowl history. >> last question. >> the winning coach of the ravens talking about his experience tonight. you heard him, he said, when i looked on the other side of that field during that 35 minute break with the lights and i looked at my brother jim, i knew

they were going to come back and play a hard game in that second half, he knew he was going to be in trouble because he knew that brother. >> we're going to keep a close eye on this press conference. there are police in that crowd in baltimore. and it looks like the crowd's getting pretty crowdy there. police are trying to control the crowd. we're going to keep an eye on that, and all of the press conferences and keep an eye on new orleans to the right of your screen as well as we look at bourbon street. we still have a lot to cover here for you on cnn. try to get to the bottom of that situation that happened in new orleans with the power outage that almost changed the outcome of this game.

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